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Plane Cents, LLC
Joe Penaz
Continuing Gun Training and School
Training for your firearms carry permit

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We usually have ammo for sale at the classes.

We now have some suppressed (silencers) guns on our range bring .22 lr or 9mm and qualify with our suppressed Glock 17 or 19 fitted with suppressors. We also do one on one or group range/shooting training. Do it with a suppressed gun (more fun) Try before you buy. Suppressors are now legal in minnesota and we sell them!






Dear Joe:
Thanks again for your wonderful class.  My testimonial is below:

I recently attended the Plane Cents Permit to Carry class in January 2015.  Both the class and the instructor, Joe Penaz, were fantastic!  I was quite impressed with the course content, especially the depth to which Mr. Penaz reviewed various scenarios about how NOT to get in trouble with our guns.  It was extraordinarily clear how passionate Joe is about protecting our constitutional rights and about refusing to become a victim of crime.  I applaud Joe's expertise and frank communication style.  My only concern with the class is that it was too inexpensive and was initially concerned why it was so cheap.  Therefore, I would strongly recommend Mr. Penaz at least triple his class tuition and am positive that everyone in the room would have gladly paid it.
I registered for the class to better prepare for back-country camping trips to both Glacier and Denali National Parks.  Having attended the class, though, I truly recognize the tremendous importance of protecting my family and refusing to become a victim of crime.  Furthermore, I am scheduling personal instruction with Joe to improve my tactical shooting skills.  Everyone needs to attend this class!  Sincerely, Dr. Jason F.

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I offer the most cost effective FCP training in the state of Minnesota.

We have many Twin Cities suburb locations: Mayer, Waconia, Glencoe and now Akeley Minnesota.

We can accommodate you for a private class one or two people just about any hour of the day or night. This works well for people who have odd work schedules or busy life styles.

Northern Minnesota: Plane Cents is holding classes in Akeley Minnesota. We have a brand new building also new 50 and 100 yd and 1000 yd ranges. Keep checking for new class dates. I have not forgotten about you guys up north, you deserve a less expensive class also. Bemidji, Walker, Park Rapids, St Cloud, Detroit lakes, Itasca, Duluth, Silver Bay, any Northern Minnesota city can take advantage of our low pricing.

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Plane Cents, LLC new pricing:
We know that times are hard, so we have lowered the pricing for our multi-state course to a low $55.00. It just does not get any better than this.

Looking for a great gift for the person who has everthing? Consider a Plane Cents gift certificate (which can be purchased at class or online), or purchase a class for that special someone online.

After the owner of Lakeshore Market, 21380 Highway 7 in Greenwood, Minnesota, was the victim of an attempted armed robbery in which he shot one of the assailants on May 20, 2010 at 10:45 p.m., he decided he needed to get his carry permit. He used Plane Cents, LLC to train he, his wife and two of his friends. I have trained many people that have actually used a gun in self defense. See link to story: See the video at my class.

Plane cents has been visited many times in my classes by local law enforcement. The latest was Carver County's permit background investigator. As always flying colors.
Click here schedule www.guncarrypermit.com

Why is PCSD worth the drive?
Here’s what you get from PCSD

• $55 all other, includes multistate.

• Available training for levels beginner, to advanced street level self-defense hand gun training
• Classes in Bloomington, Waconia, Mayer and Glencoe and more locations coming.
• Private weekday and weekend classes including corporate discounts.
• Chance to see and handle wide selection of top of the line carry guns.
• Presented by an instructor who has been training since 2003, who is a life time member at Front Site Gun Training Institute, a top facility and weekend classes include my wife who is also a certified instructor.

People come regularly from: Rochester, Wisconsin, St. Paul, Anoka, St. Cloud and as far away as Duluth to have their training done by PCSD. Why? Because someone told them to who also was trained by us. There may be some strong language when demonstrating methods for controlling the life threatening situation, I always ask if this will offend any one, if so it is not used.



Plane Cents, LLC
Self Defense

Joseph C. Penaz

Why Pay More?
Taking Your Permit to Carry Course Shouldn’t Break the Bank. How much should a Minnesota Permit to Carry course cost? The truth is, getting a permit to carry a firearm in Minnesota can be very expensive, and for some folks it can be too expensive, so they go unprotected.

Unlike several other states that only require that citizens be “law abiding” in order to carry a firearm, Minnesota requires that potential applicants attend a “Minnesota Permit to Carry a Firearm” course, conducted by an organization certified by the BCA. The cost for that course is left up to the individual training organization. One organization charges as much as $200 or more. At Plane Cents, LLC we believe that it’s your right to obtain a permit to carry a firearm, and that you shouldn’t be “priced out” of that right.

So what exactly do you get for $55 from PCSD? You’ll be taught all of the key things that will help keep you out of trouble in Minnesota, including the three key things that the state requires us to teach, including: Instruction in the fundamentals of pistol use; Instruction in the legal aspects of firearm possession, carry and use, including the rules governing the use of deadly force; and an actual shooting qualification. In addition to those topics, we’ll also provide you with the appropriate instruction and certificate that you’ll need if you’d like to apply for your Utah permit. You may also apply for Florida and New Hampshire which, when combined with your Minnesota permit, will allow you to carry in 31 or more states. We do not make you meet at a motel for your class. We meet at sportsman's clubs, conference rooms and sometimes even my house. Oh I forgot Goose Lake Auto Parts -- you may think, a salvage yard? Well you have to see the lodge we meet in that belongs to the owners to believe it. If you can make one of these classes at Goose Lake, you will not regret it.

So what extra things are you taught by a training organization that charges $125 more than PCSD? Guess what? You get taught EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS. They won’t teach you about a secret 5th rule governing the use of deadly force that only they know about (here’s a hint, there isn’t one), and you won’t be taught about a 5th universal safety rule that they invented that’s worth the extra $125 just to hear about it.

About Our Web Site
One thing you’ll notice about our web site is that we like having a dialogue with our prospective and past students, including filling you in on our thoughts, and what we’ve been up to lately. We might not look as fancy as eBay, but then again, we’re not trying to sell you a Mercedes, or a piece of toast that has the image of Jesus on it. We’re just trying to provide a good product at a price that doesn’t break the bank. We might even occasionally miss the spell checker as we keep our website up to date (for example, we recently listed a class in “Boomington” instead of “Bloomington”, but we thought that one was actually kind of funny). Then again, if a misspelled word here or there really bothers you, we can direct you to an organization who will provide pretty good spelling and grammar for a mere $125 extra. It’s your choice, but we’re betting that the extra $125 would buy a lot of practice ammunition.

Obviously, I am not a writer or a web developer. I do the best I can myself and spend as little as I can on such services. It could be argued that I should hire it out, I don't know. I keep my overhead low and pass the savings on to you. A few instructors take shots at me personally and my web site regularly. They judge my classes that they have never attended. My classes are about you and my success proves that. If you want to take a course that will make you feel like you're special, you’ve come to the right place. Call any of my references listed on my web site. Or call me @ 612-327-3490.

About Joe:

We simply ask you to compare what we offer:

  1. A complete 4-6 hour BCA certified course using a combination of training materials including video, power point presentation, and many items you can feel and touch to help you understand equipment and principles.
  2. Instructors who actually go to school a minimum of 5 days annually for defensive hand gun training.
  3. We have been training students since 2003, within the first couple months of the bill passing in Minnesota.
  4. We have more than 12 defensive hand guns for you to see and touch, including borrowing one for qualification if you desire (just bring the correct ammo).
  5. Lunch offered at every weekend class.
  6. Available for you to call 24/7 at 612-327-3490. Rarely will you get an answering machine.
  7. I have prominent instructors sit in and review my classes from time to time, if you want to ask them about the quality of my class content, call me and I will give you their contact info.
  8. Multi-state option includes: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Florida and more.

If you are looking for this type of value in these tough times, you came to the right place. You can take the money you save and put it toward a gun or ammo to practice. The reason we have trained so many students is referrals.

Click on the link below to be directed to our company web site. http://www.guncarrypermit.com, http://www.planecents.net and http://www.concealcarry.net


About us:

If you are looking for value in these tough times, you came to the right place at Plane Cents LLC. You can take the money you save and put it toward a gun or ammo to practice. The reason we have trained more students than any other single instructor out there is referrals. Click on the link below to be directed to our company web site, http://www.guncarrypermit.com.

We now have free .22lr Ammo for the qualifying portion of the class. Go to http://www.guncarrypermit.com for details. We really want to do everything we can to help you afford to become a part of the Minnesota Carry movement.

Ammo shortage

Due to the shortage of ammo if you cannot find ammo for the shooting portion of the class, I have several .22LR semi auto pistols for you to use to qualify with. We also have a huge supply of .22LR ammo for sale at the classes! Don't let the ammo shortage stop you from choosing PCSD as your trainer. We still encourage you to use the gun you will carry but offer this as a last resort so you can get your permit. You can also use a .22LR semi auto for the skill builder class after the permit class.


Weekday private or small group skill builder classes.

Classes are good for all skill levels and for all people who want to learn real handgun proficiency needed for self defense. Great for those who want private one on one. Use .22LR or any hand gun you want I have over 20 guns to borrow. Call to set up a date 612-327-3490

Next step skill builder classes

These classes are for individuals who have a fair amount of hand gun time you do not have to be a super shooter but we will be doing exercises that involve moving while shooting, drawing from the holster and such. You need to be comfortable with hand guns first. We do allow you to use .22LR handguns to save on ammo cost as the skills you will learn are developmental skills that will transition to your carry gun as well. I have several semi auto's in .22LR including 4 Glocks converted to .22LR with Advantage Arms conversions, that you can use. Instructors are graduates of Front Sight™ www.FrontSight.com and are very skilled shooters as well as instructors. call me 612-327-3490

Call me 612-327-3490






If you want to carry in Minnesota and be part of the Twin City Carry Movement, I am the guy -- just call my references

Get your permit so you can Carry in Minnesota

Why do I carry a gun?

"When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act."

    by Marko Kloos

Hear what a recent student had to say about my class!

"I started carrying in 1964 and have been through several “Classes”; this is the first class that was informative and interesting. I am pleased to recommend Joe Penaz of Plane Cents Self-Defense to you for your training. If you have any questions please feel free to call me." Duane Schroeder 952-545-5765.

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We wrote the book on Minnesota Carry course value!
We offer more value than any other class in the Twin Cities!

Do you need a private weekday class?
Call me 612-327-3490

I do private classes for as little as 1 person to match difficult schedules. This is great for women who are in need of extra help in the shooting portion of the permit process.


After completing our course apply for MN, Arizona, Florida & New Hampshire and carry in 31 states!
Permits Honored in these states if you apply for 4 states permits after our course you can carry in:

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming.

Carry laws change frequently. You need to go to www.usacarry.com and http://www.carryconcealed.net to get up-to-date information as to where your permit(s) allow you to carry. It is your sole responsibility to know the law.



A chance to try a gun free to help you chose your carry gun!
Choosing the right gun to carry is an important decision. Women especially need to try out a variety of guns for carry. Marcia carried 4 guns before she found one that she really likes and is comfortable with. We have a variety of guns for you to try to help you choose your carry handgun. You can rent guns at Bills Gun Shop (pretty expensive), or may be able to use a .22 or revolver through other instructors. No other instructor we're aware of offer the variety and quality of guns that we do. Just another reason to use Plane Cents Self Defense for all your gun training needs. Ask other trainers what the options are for guns you can borrow at their class.

Joe and Marcia have once again returned from Front Sight Gun Training Institute www.FrontSight.com where we attended another 5-day defensive handgun training class. Ask your potential instructor if they have invested the money and had 10 full days of tactical pistol training in the last year so he can train you at the level we can! We know of no husband and wife CCW instruction team in Minnesota that can claim this.

Bring 50 rounds of ammo, ear and eye protection, and the gun use is free! Due to our current inability to obtain ammunition, we can no longer offer ammunition for sale at our class. If you are unable to obtain ammunition for the gun you would like to try or for your own gun, just bring some .22LR ammunition and you can use one of our .22's for the qualification.

Plane Cents is now offering Defensive Hand Gun Training. This small group (as little as two) will expose you to what you could see in the real world of self defense and help you prepare. This is a real eye opener and will show you how to practice to for the un-thinkable! A great couple or family experience. 6-8 hours on the range 200+ rounds shot. You will not believe what you do not know. $250 per person per day. Ammo and guns supplied by customer. 9mm to .45acp. targets supplied by PCSD.



"Carry Training Minnesota"
"Permit to Carry MN Gun Training"
Whatever you want to call it, we do it for less!



What former students say about PCSD:

"As a former United States Marine and California Police Officer I had the privilege and honor to be taught by some of the best tactical weapons and self-defense experts in the country when I was part of those organizations. The difference I believe, that makes an instructor stand out among all the others is their passion, intensity, and drive to continue to improve upon an already accomplished resume.

Joe, you are in that class of instructor as described above; your passion and energy is clearly evident in the way you conduct your class. Your desire to improve is apparent with your recent training at Front Sight. Thank you for putting this valuable class together giving people the opportunity to exercise their Constitutional Right."

Steve Porter

"I started carrying in 1964 and have been through several “Classes”; this is the first class that was informative and interesting. I am pleased to recommend Joe Penaz of Plane Cents Self-Defense to you for your training. If you have any questions please feel free to call me."

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I offer classes almost every weekend, Wednesday's and also on thursday evenings. Why? I care about your time. I know how tough juggling schedules can be, so I give you more options than any other instructor out there. Check my references!!


Gun Stop in Minnetonka
(952-474-4570), and talk to Larry. I have been doing courses for their customers since the bill was passed. In fact I was the first instructor to serve their customers with permit to carry (mn) training.

I also train customers of Little Crow Sports in Hutchinson (320-587-9829).

Need another? "Cabin Fever" Victoria, MN. See Jeff for local gun needs.
1550 Arboretum Blvd
Victoria, MN
(952) 443-2022

One More?
Ammo Craft
Hopkins MN
Ron Becker
Ron has taken my course!

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If your cycle club wants a training on location I will come and do it.

I am the proud owner of an 07' Dyna Wide Glide, my 3rd new Harley in 30 years.




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Joe Penaz does carry courses in the Twin Cities area








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